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Robot Wars Discussion Forum: RW EXTREME [warning pre-BBC2]: EXTREME 5

Richard Southworth (Velociraptor)

Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 06:46 am
I'm going to bring Extreme 6 onto this thread.

Challenge Belt - I didn't realise Tornado was that much stronger than Behemoth!

Vengeance - I was supporting Plunderbird in that battle. Great force behind it, but I suppose it was too fast for its own good. I like their new song though.

Robot Wars Discussion Forum: RW EXTREME [warning pre-BBC2]: Extreme Flames Put Out?

gareth young (Dsb)

Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 11:42 pm
yep-it was great to see tornado beat chaos 2 even more convincingly second time around.

Robot Wars Discussion Forum: RW EXTREME [warning pre-BBC2]: Ten Best Bots Of RWE

Ed (Stormguy)

Friday, October 26, 2001 - 05:12 pm
It does have to be said, at Charity events these days Tornado is winning everything hands down (and that's without their spinning disk weapon attached).

Know the result tonight, and you're going to be in for a good show


Joe Phillips (Kingjoe)

Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 03:16 pm
i think the top ten are
disc o inferno
suicidal tendencies
thermidor 2
panic attack
king b

Senan Lee (Senanl)

Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 10:12 pm
R u guys mad! King b (complete waste of £4k) Suicidal Tendencies (26 tonnes of pressure!)
The majority of robots are pance. They break down, become imobilised or are rubbish drivers. Hynodisc, Razer and Pussycat are the only
ones which actually cause any serious damage.

Top 10.

3.Pussy Cat
4.Fire Storm 3
5.Panic Attack
6.Chaos 2
8.New Team Mortis Robot
9.Wild Thing 3

Jon S (Jons)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 01:32 pm
Robert T, take it easy! Panic Attacks my favorite robot but you've got to be realistic and accept that (breakdowns notwithstanding) it wouldn't stand much of a chance against Tornado, Pussycat, Razor or Chaos 2 and hence is no longer competitive with the very best.
I take it you didn't see what happened when it faced Firestorm 3?

Plus I wasn't attempting to list the best 10 robots cos thats easy. Instead I was trying to list the most entertaining/worthy 10.

And FINALLY anyone who still thinks hypno-disc deserves a top 10 slot in ANY list after a multitude of poor performances, breakdowns and sore losing are badly deluding themselves.

Richard Southworth (Velociraptor)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 03:07 pm
My top ten:

01. Tornado - absolutely ferocious

02. Behemoth - an extremely improved and impressive robot

03. Pussycat - another aggressive competitor

04. Thermidor 2 - one of the best improved of all

05. Razer - succeeded in beating Tornado where Chaos 2 failed twice

06. Firestorm 3 - highly impressive in the All Stars

07. Panic Attack - the Series 2 champion still has the power

08. Chaos 2 - did fairly well, but its age is starting to show

09. Disco Inferno - a performance in the Annihilator which few could have expected

10. Arnold A Terminegger - see Disco Inferno

Philip Bray Wilson (Pipbw)

Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 12:41 pm
4.panic attack
9.bigger brother
10.disco inferno

i am however the biggest hypnodisc fan but in extreme they lost all the time.why do they breakdown so much

Robot Wars Discussion Forum: TV Shows: Series 5 predictions

Chris Becket (Hawk)

Saturday, October 27, 2001 - 04:06 pm
I put Tornado as series winner, Razer as second, and maybe Chaos 2 and Panic Attack as 3rd and 4th. But I'm very interested in the fate of Gemini. And WBC.

Philip Bray Wilson (Pipbw)

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 06:26 pm
1.razer will win if it doesnt break down which it hasnt in a long time
2.thermidor2.the best flipper for sure robot looks wicked

well who knows what will really happen chaos 2,hypnodisc,behamoth,pussyct or any of the newcummers could win

Mollusc (Mollusc)

Friday, November 9, 2001 - 12:45 pm
Good year for:
Tornado- winners
Bigger Brother- most sucessful non-seed
Razer- first heat win
KingB- surprise heat winner over Dominator, X-Terminator and Kronic

Bad year for:
Chaos2- heat winners but not up to their ususal standard
Firestorm- knocked out in heat final by Gemini
Dominator- see above
101- past its best and in the heat from hell

These are just predicitons

Lee M Dunn (Lee)

Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 12:36 pm
Having seen Behmoth perform in Extreme I think that it could well do much better than expected but I have only seen the first three episodes. Also I do think Razer could make it to the final but I don't think it will win. My choice for the final would be Razer, Behmoth, Tornado, Stinger out of those the most likley to win I think is Tornado.

jonathan (Wjd20)

Saturday, March 9, 2002 - 08:56 am
i think they will come in this order
1 hypnodisc(battered tornado to win)
2 tornado (battered chaos2 to win but lost to hypnodisc due to judges decision)
3 terrorhurtz(battered razer to get to the final but axe snapped of when fighting hypnodisc)
4 chaos 2 (throws behemoth out of the arena but in the final terrorhurtz punctures the gas cylinder)
5 razer
6 behemoth
7 gemini
8 firestorm
9 x terminator 2
10 pussycat

Toby Wheeler (Xenon)

Saturday, March 9, 2002 - 01:16 pm
In my view, Razer to win by beating Tornado in the Final... Chaos 2 and Pussycat will be there as Final contestants as well through!

I really, really hope Bigger Brother can do well though... that is one top class robot, and is deserving of much better competition performance than it has had so far.

evan mc guigan (Evan)

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:55 am
My predictions 4 heat winners would b
H3=general carnage/shredder
H7=tornado(no problem)
H9=bigger brother/onslaught
H10=panic attack
H11=razer/widow`s revenge
I also think that axe-awe,terrorhurtz & suicidal tendencies will do well in there heat.I think these robots will make it 2 the final 4-

2.gemini(if it does`nt disable itself)
3.razer(if it does`nt meet pussycat)

I think tornado could win if it avoids razer.
Any comments?

tybaltus (Tybaltus)

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:41 am
You know, I was really surprised to see tornado as successful as it was when i first saw it. I would never expect such a simple design to have such a strong stand in the heats/semifinals. Gotta hand it to those guys for turning a box with spikes into a VERY serious competitor. As far as your choices go up there-in those given 5 I would say that Behemoth or Thermador have the upper hand. And naturally I would pull for Thermador to win. Fear the Lobster!

tybaltus (Tybaltus)

Sunday, April 7, 2002 - 11:30 pm
Heres what I have in each given heat:
B-Bulldog Breed
C-General Carnage
E-Wild Thing
F-King B
J-Panic Attack
K-Suicidal Tendencies

If I am right for all of those (but Im probably WAY off) then the final 4:
Panic Attack
-Sorry for the lack of upsets for the final 4!
And my pick for the grand champion.......Firestorm!

Nicholas James Skliar-Davies (Nicholas_Skliar)

Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 11:55 am
hypno disc or s3 or razer or tornado or panicattack or pussycat

Mollusc (Mollusc)

Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 01:18 pm
I'm backing Tornado although I don't like the robot much.
I can only see Razer beating them, a clash that could only happen in the latter stages. I have a gut feeling that Razer will find a new way of breaking down before then.

Robot Wars Discussion Forum: Competitors: Tornado would be brilliant in sumo

Joe Phillips (Kingjoe)

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 08:56 pm
i think it has the power to do it but shunts heavier than tornado

enlighten me

Philippa Yeomans (Phily)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 09:47 am
o think that they have to gear down the bot for more power, i watched them on rw extream amd they were wizzing about everywhere so i think that they would wizz off the side of the platform!

FrankMOP (Pcbore)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 11:53 am
Tornado has already given Shunt a good um... shunt, so you'd be right.

Ed (Stormguy)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 02:41 pm
What has weight got to do with it, all Tornado would have to do is drive around the side of shunt and do what they do best - just push him off. Tornado has had no problem pushing shunt all around the arena in the past - don't see why they would have any problems with the sumo.


Robot Wars Discussion Forum: RW EXTREME [warning pre-BBC2]: TORNADO!!!

Senan Lee (Senanl)

Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 10:56 pm
In RW Extreme Tornado beat 3.Stinger Once
2.Pussy Cat Twice
1.Chaos 2 Twice
They have taken out the top 3 seeds for Series 5, why oh why have they been seeded 12th! Team Tornado were in virtually every single episode of Extreme, showing great endurance and engineering- consider this against the likes of unpredictble Razer (which is excellent) which only had 3 fights and Hypnodisc (another personal favourite) which lost both it's fights.

It's true to say that the teams choose what they want to do in Extreme but Tornado are such a reliable and quality robot that i can't belive it hasn't even made the top 10!

The "REAL" top 3 seeds for Series 5 should be
1. Razer (Guarenteed to break down)
2. Tornado (Has beaten top 3 seeds)
3. HypnoDisc (Does what a Robots meant to do!)

Chaos 2 can't push a 100kg robot around, Pussy Cat's tyres are incredibly vunerable and Stinger is just the worlds most hated robot.

Feel free to add to the Conversation. Senan

Senan Lee (Senanl)

Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 06:15 pm
U say it is past performance in the series that seeds them, then why did razer get 3rd seed in Series 4! only by the fact that it beat Chaos 2 in the first world championship, no offence vinny but razer have never made it to a series semi finals. A perfect exmaple of how performance outside the series affects your seeding.

Therefore i would have been a little happier if the judges had taken tornados performance in RW Extreme more seriously. Lets face it, the only people Tornado can't beat are Razer.

Vinny, do Simon or Ian go on the discussion boards?

Vincent Blood (Vinnyblood)

Friday, November 2, 2001 - 02:38 pm
To answer the above confusion...

Going into this year's events as seed 4, we were still holders of the First World Champs, Southern Annihilator winners and Heat finalists.

Our seeding of 3rd for series 4 was based on the First World Champs, the International League, Pinball Warrior and Best Design Award.

The seedings this year were all based on what happened BEFORE Extreme. If you did count performances in Extreme towards Series 5, then yes, Tornado should be much higher. I also think that the fact we won the All-Stars justifies our seeding for this year. Also, the seeded positions mean nothing when you get in the arena so don't get too worked up about them. At the end of the day they mean nothing compared to winning events.

Ian visits the forum but Simon doesn't as he prefers lathes and drills to PC's. I do keep them both informed of discussions of interest.

Adrian Bond (Tytalus)

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 09:44 pm
TV Endurance is just the half of it. Apart from the RW Extreme recorded at Earls Court at the Tomorrows World Live Event (RW was THE best thing there), the filming of the main Wars and the rest of RW Extreme following it (which means on the balance of it they [Tornado] were up at least twice a day), they also fitted in a trip to Wilsons Day (Robots@War) during the TW Event recordings to relax!

If they aren't nominated for a special award this year to go along with their others, I'll eat my hat. Hmmm, I wonder if they do a RW Pillow award for the team that lost the most sleep??? (And considering the risks in holding one of those things, whether you would want to put your head anywhere near it!)

Robot Wars Discussion Forum: General: Bring back....erm some robotic discussion maybe?

Garry Brown (Majson)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 07:06 pm
sorry just got a little tired of pointelss threads and bring back the sumo basho and bring back the tug of war ect...

and all the fighting over silly threads and get rid of furby ect...

so i thought i'd try and get some robotic conversation going..not sure how though...doh

erm how about who you think could beat which robots

erm...lets start in the order of seeds for series 5

who do you think stands a chance of beating Chaos2???

Do you see

Richard Weir FM (Softweir)

Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 07:58 pm
Razer (2:1 so far)
Pussycat(it got close last year)
Hypnodisc (very close series 3, in good condition could do it)
Anthrax (whatever it's called now) looks very dangerous
Bigger Brother (done it before)
Dominator 2 (done it)
Tornado (could Chaos 2 catch it to flip it? And stay away from the new weapon?)

And I'm sure people will come up with more...

Chris Becket (Hawk)

Friday, November 2, 2001 - 04:19 pm
Tough one. Here:

PC: If lucky
WBC: If it speeds up
Gemini: Couldn't say, very close
Razer: Best chance
Tornado: 50:50 Depends on luck and the HRs
Hypnodisc: Same again

I know GF upgraded the rams and canister on C2 for Extreme, but it only weighed 83kg then, so what are the other 17kg then? More of the same?

Toby Wheeler (Xenon)

Friday, November 2, 2001 - 04:49 pm
I reckon Razer could beat them easily, and they would be the only ones who could do so easily.

Hypno-Disc would pose a threat, but I think that Chaos 2 would beat them without too much difficulty... much quicker and more manouevrable. PC is another one who could take a fight to them... it'd be close.

As for Tornado, yep, definitely. Reliability permitting. Dominator 2 - probably not. Larger arena than at live events, and George's driving. The other possibility is Terrorhurtz - Chaos 2's flipper wouldn't be as effective with that suction thingy, and the axe looks lethal.

FrankMOP (Pcbore)

Friday, November 2, 2001 - 07:36 pm
I think Tornado has also beaten Chaos2... Better check the website to make sure.
Other robots that have beaten Chaos2 at live events are:

Bigger Brother

I think that's it. Not sure though.

Garry Brown (Majson)

Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 03:19 pm
ok then: who we think could beat Chaos 2

Dominator 2
Bigger Brother
Hypno -disc
WBC maybe
Gemini unknown

ok then

What about the number two seeds Pussycat??

who could beat them?

do you see

Garry Brown (Majson)

Wednesday, November 7, 2001 - 10:33 am
hypno has a self righter now but i do believe that Chaos 2 is a lot easier to control and its faster so should out manouvoure hypno

as for pussycat i think tornado would stand a good chance due to the fact that Pussycat doesn't have a lot of torque, its drive setup leads to this. so tornado would be all over it, i beleive anyway

Do you see

Robot Wars Discussion Forum: Competitors: What is the most rubbish boring robot of them all

Andrew Marchant (Tornado)

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 05:38 pm
Any robot that moves under its own power is a good robot, because for every robot that moves there are ten hidden away in people's garages that never move.

There are good robots and there are very good robots - usually the very good ones win!

Team Tornado

Karl Asplin (Desertstorm)

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 07:00 pm
Well said Andrew, the very worst robots never see the light of day because they either spontaneously combust due to extremely dodgy wiring,or are dismantled/thrown away by their creators because they are to embarrassed to show them.

Philip Bray Wilson (Pipbw)

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 09:03 pm
just wondering is andrew from team tornado the guy with long hair,the one with short hair that does the intro or the other guy

Ed (Stormguy)

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 09:27 pm
guy with long hair = Bryan Moss
one with short hair = Andrew Marchant
other guy = Dave 'Bring it on' Gamble



Philip Bray Wilson (Pipbw)

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 09:53 pm
thanks,tornado rule

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